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ISLAMABAD: President
General Pervez Musharraf has ruled out possibility of al-Qaeda
or Taliban regrouping in Pakistani areas or posing any
strategic threat.
'They are on the run and they are hiding,' he said in an
interview with BBC's Asia Today programme aired Monday.
The President replied in negative when asked whether al-Qaeda
could pose a threat. 'No they can't. Strategically they can't
combine to pose a strategic threat,' he said.
The President said they were hiding in small pockets and were
on the run in. 'They are not in communication with each other,
they are not in contact with each other. So I don't at all
think that a strategic threat can develop,' he added.
Tribal Areas
When asked about government's control over tribal areas, he
said 'We have a fair amount of control. We have ingressed into
the area for the first time in over a century.'
The President said of the seven tribal agencies there are no
traces of al- Qaeda in six, apart from the South Waziristan
agency. 'We have moved against them.. we have held number of
operations and we are operating very strongly.'
Attempts on Life
Responding to a question on the attempts on his life, the
President said that all those who were directly involved in
the action have been roped in. The investigation was underway
to get to the masterminds behind these assassination attempts.
However, the President added: 'We are reasonably sure that
al-Qaeda was involved in initiating the process. But we are
still seeing whether they were in collusion with an extremist
group in Pakistan.'
He said that 'vulnerability is there - because I am stepping
on a lot of toes -but we have to enhance our security measures
which we have done and I am sure things will be alright.'
Probe against Nuke Scientists
To a question about the investigation of nuclear scientists,
he agreed that they could have acted unilaterally without the
knowledge of the government.
He said 'some unscrupulous
individuals may have got involved. We are investigating that.'
To a question that fingers were being pointed at Pakistan,
President Musharraf said 'I take exception to this issue that
fingers are pointing at Pakistan.' He said 'they are pointing
at some individuals in Pakistan -as much as they are pointing
at individuals in Europe.'
'So I don't know why people are talking of individuals of
Pakistan only. What about the individuals in Europe? And I
know that there have been firms in Europe who are involved in
the fabrication of this equipment - this fabrication is -
needs very high technology which is not available in
(Pakistan).'
To a question about the result of investigation Musharraf said
'We will punish them. We are going to be very harsh with them
because they are enemies of state. They have done something
for personal financial gains.'
Kashmir Issue
About the developments between Pakistan and India and the
freedom movement in Kashmir, President Musharraf said he has
discussed everything with the Kashmiri leaders.
'I have discussed everything
with the Kashmiri leaders who are in Pakistan... and there are
some APHC representatives also in Pakistan now I have
discussed everything with them and taken them on board.'
About the Kashmiri freedom-fighters, President said 'They are
not under our control.'
Composite Dialogue
President Musharraf said the
Joint Statement mentions that Kashmir is a dispute which needs
to be resolved. 'A composite dialogue must start on all issues
- including Kashmir - and that Pakistan is a party to it. Now
all this combined creates certain environment which ... has
improved the environment in Kashmir and between India and
Pakistan.'
He said there was a need to
move forward. 'We are going to ensure that there is no
terrorism from Pakistan in any part of the world. At the same
we have agreed that we have to move forward on Kashmir - now
let us look ahead and not be talking of the past. Because
there have been allegations and counter allegations on both
sides. That they have been talking of cross border terrorism
and we have been talking of state terrorism, human rights
violations, atrocities against civilians. Let's leave that...
aside and look forward to peace and harmonious existence.'
Al-Qaeda
To a question he said Al-Qaeda has nothing to do with Kashmir.
He said there is no connection between al-Qaeda and the
militants in Kashmir. 'Not at all - they are more on the
western border... in Afghanistan and one of tribal agencies on
our western border.'
He said 'We are operating in our tribal region against them...
so they initiated this action. And you know of the threat that
Zawahri gave against me.'
When asked about a solution on Kashmir, Musharraf said, 'Well
we are not talking of solutions as yet. There are a number of
solutions.... I have been talking of a four step
solution...that we start talking first of all... accept the
reality of Kashmir, secondly ... and then eliminate whatever
is unacceptable to India, Pakistan and Kashmir. And then out
of the balance go for a solution acceptable to all three. Now
we need to go ahead on this.'
LoC
President Gen Pervez Musharraf added, 'Now when you talk of
Line of Control being permanent, we have fought wars over this
Line of Control. So a dispute cannot be a solution. Certainly
not. But I have been saying that we need to move beyond stated
positions and show flexibility ... then only we can reach some
agreements.'
Flexibility
To a question Musharraf said 'I have been talking of
flexibility which no leader ever spoke before and I have
interacted myself with the political leadership, with the
media, with the public representative and I know everyone -
vast majority is on board.'
President said there has to be reciprocity by India to move
forward to settle all outstanding disputes. 'It cannot be
unilateral and I have made it very clear ...it just cannot be
unilateral. There has to be reciprocity. We have to meet
somewhere midway.'
Musharraf said, 'a solution somewhere midway, acceptable to
India, Pakistan and Kashmir ... will be acceptable to a vast
majority I know I don't have much of a problem in Pakistan,
Indian leadership needs to see, I think the environment is the
same there. The vast majority wants peace and harmony with
Pakistan and they want a solution of all disputes. I think we
have to be bold and go forward.'
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